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carlii posted 20-12-2001 06:59 GMT
I was wondering if any of you guys knew how to make a 'searchable' database, accessible from the Internet?
carlii posted 22-12-2001 01:28 GMT
Well?
Pikaflare posted 22-12-2001 22:13 GMT
As in CGI? I'm sure you can find one on www.perl.com if you need to. Or I could make one...
Maxpowr
carlii posted 23-12-2001 03:01 GMT
Well I am using Geocities - can I still create one like that using Perl?
carlii posted 23-12-2001 03:18 GMT
Perl sounds so confusing. Is there some program you know of that writes the code for me?
MaDbRiT posted 23-12-2001 09:49 GMT
I might well be wrong here - but I'd imagine very few ISP's will allow you to run PERL (or other) scripts you've written on thier servers - you use the provided scripts from the "CGI-BIN" or nothing. It's different if you have a "commercial" account with the ISP, where you tend to get your own CGI-BIN folder, but personal accounts tend to be severely restricted in this area.
I'd imagine that was even more certain a restriction on free servers - think about it by putting yourself in the place of the sever administrator, would YOU let someone who pays you nothing and whos skill level is unknown and intentions uncertain run programs of unknown purpose and pedigree on a server you were responsible for?? I'm b####y sure I wouldn't :-)
Depending on what EXACTLY you are trying to do, you might be able to use an entirely client side piece of scripting (Javascript or something such). The ISP will neither need to know or care about this of course.

The basic point I'm making here is that before you fret about what language and methods to use for making a searchable database at the server end - you first need an ISP who'll let you do stuff like that on thier servers in the first place. Having found one - odds are that there will be a ready to use tried and tested 'search script' (probably in PERL) for you to use.
However, I'd suspect they are going to want you to pay (heavily) for the priveledge and that the database files would also need to be on thier server.
Al.
Alex posted 23-12-2001 18:00 GMT
You don't need to pay too heftily to be able to run your own Perl scripts. Tera-byte charge me $85 a year for my web hosting which includes CGI access (I think - at least their current lowest-priced plan is that amount, although they seem to change their pricing plans more often than I change my underpants).
carlii posted 26-12-2001 06:10 GMT
I guess I'll never be able to get a searchable database......*sigh*
Computer Whizz posted 28-12-2001 02:16 GMT
Well.....
DK3 let you host, and run CGI-scripts for free!
And you get supposedly unlimited web space (doubt it!).
The main drawback for "common" net-folk is that you need an FTP client.
But the catch is you get an add come up.
That's a small price to pay for such a privelege though!
Computer Whizz
carlii posted 31-12-2001 08:59 GMT
*PFT* - an FTP client a problem? lol
Well it's not just the problem of a convienient server but just, also, at least MAKING the CGI-script that is the obstacle.
Computer Whizz posted 02-01-2001 12:28 GMT
Well, there are people out there who don't know alot about FTP's. I myself grew up using an Atari FTP client to download games ;) and it was MUCH harder than it is today!!
Anyway, why don't you just search on Yahoo, Google, Altavista, ect.. for "CGI scripts". or "Free CGI scripts". You'd get alot, and all for free!
That's the way I got MY bulletin board.
Computer Whizz
carlii posted 05-01-2001 11:22 GMT
Good idea! Thanks CW.

Author	Topic: Help needed with HTML: databases
carlii	posted 20-12-2001 06:59 GMT I was wondering if any of you guys knew how to make a 'searchable' database, accessible from the Internet?
carlii	posted 22-12-2001 01:28 GMT Well?
Pikaflare	posted 22-12-2001 22:13 GMT As in CGI? I'm sure you can find one on www.perl.com if you need to. Or I could make one... Maxpowr
carlii	posted 23-12-2001 03:01 GMT Well I am using Geocities - can I still create one like that using Perl?
carlii	posted 23-12-2001 03:18 GMT Perl sounds so confusing. Is there some program you know of that writes the code for me?
MaDbRiT	posted 23-12-2001 09:49 GMT I might well be wrong here - but I'd imagine very few ISP's will allow you to run PERL (or other) scripts you've written on thier servers - you use the provided scripts from the "CGI-BIN" or nothing. It's different if you have a "commercial" account with the ISP, where you tend to get your own CGI-BIN folder, but personal accounts tend to be severely restricted in this area. I'd imagine that was even more certain a restriction on free servers - think about it by putting yourself in the place of the sever administrator, would YOU let someone who pays you nothing and whos skill level is unknown and intentions uncertain run programs of unknown purpose and pedigree on a server you were responsible for?? I'm b####y sure I wouldn't :-) Depending on what EXACTLY you are trying to do, you might be able to use an entirely client side piece of scripting (Javascript or something such). The ISP will neither need to know or care about this of course. The basic point I'm making here is that before you fret about what language and methods to use for making a searchable database at the server end - you first need an ISP who'll let you do stuff like that on thier servers in the first place. Having found one - odds are that there will be a ready to use tried and tested 'search script' (probably in PERL) for you to use. However, I'd suspect they are going to want you to pay (heavily) for the priveledge and that the database files would also need to be on thier server. Al.
Alex	posted 23-12-2001 18:00 GMT You don't need to pay too heftily to be able to run your own Perl scripts. Tera-byte charge me $85 a year for my web hosting which includes CGI access (I think - at least their current lowest-priced plan is that amount, although they seem to change their pricing plans more often than I change my underpants).
carlii	posted 26-12-2001 06:10 GMT I guess I'll never be able to get a searchable database......sigh
Computer Whizz	posted 28-12-2001 02:16 GMT Well..... DK3 let you host, and run CGI-scripts for free! And you get supposedly unlimited web space (doubt it!). The main drawback for "common" net-folk is that you need an FTP client. But the catch is you get an add come up. That's a small price to pay for such a privelege though! Computer Whizz
carlii	posted 31-12-2001 08:59 GMT PFT - an FTP client a problem? lol Well it's not just the problem of a convienient server but just, also, at least MAKING the CGI-script that is the obstacle.
Computer Whizz	posted 02-01-2001 12:28 GMT Well, there are people out there who don't know alot about FTP's. I myself grew up using an Atari FTP client to download games ;) and it was MUCH harder than it is today!! Anyway, why don't you just search on Yahoo, Google, Altavista, ect.. for "CGI scripts". or "Free CGI scripts". You'd get alot, and all for free! That's the way I got MY bulletin board. Computer Whizz
carlii	posted 05-01-2001 11:22 GMT Good idea! Thanks CW.